tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post7778925537031246293..comments2023-10-10T06:48:40.299-03:00Comments on the feminist librarian: once upon a listserv: thoughts on professionalism, privilege, and power [#thatdarnlist]annajcookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-21653426937012309102014-06-14T08:59:40.409-03:002014-06-14T08:59:40.409-03:00Sorry you got caught in mod, Kathryn -- I've s...Sorry you got caught in mod, Kathryn -- I've set all comments on "older" posts (over two weeks) to go directly to moderation due to spam/bot problems. Thank you for taking the time to comment and share your experience. I definitely hear you on the impulse to respond in less than helpful, yet oh so satisfying ways! <br /><br />One dynamic that I think is not talked about enough on the Internet is the way the already-marginalized labor to continue being respectful long beyond when the more privileged folks do, and then when they finally snap and rage are tone-policed almost immediately. We're expected to take the higher ground as the price for participation in many forums, and I think it's legitimate to snap an not remain "professional and reasonable" sometimes -- and not feel guilty for it!<br /><br />Anyway, I'm glad the post resonated and proved useful.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-23838774451853949952014-06-13T14:03:29.402-03:002014-06-13T14:03:29.402-03:00I left the list a few months ago as a direct resul...I left the list a few months ago as a direct result of a volley of replies between myself and X in a discussion about unethical hiring practices, and I was just looking at the #thatdarnlist tag today after seeing the In the Loop SAA Council Statement on A&A List in order to get a better idea of what was going on. That's how I found your blog, and I'm glad I did. I'm curious as to whether the Council's statement is related to recent events or if it has been a longer time coming; this is the first I've learned of the latest blow-up involving X.<br /><br />In the discussion that led to me leaving the list, it became clear to me very quickly that I had no power in the discussion and that no one with power was going to call X out for belittling me and other new professionals or for refusing to engage in any kind of meaningful, reasonable discussion. One user -- not X -- actually issued a veiled threat against the original dissenter (a new professional, not myself) couched in terms of that new professional reducing his own chances of being hired by complaining on a professional listserv. It's a little hard to look at a reply like that as anything other than an attempt to bully anyone who doesn't support the status quo into shutting up...and it was one of the reasons I gave up and shut up myself (the other reason was that the constant anger and frustration at the situation were impairing my ability to do my work). The comment about hireability was not directed at me personally, but it still made explicit a concern I'd already had about speaking my mind on the listserv. I have a stable job...but not a permanent one. I'm hardly alone in that. I received supportive responses on Twitter, but while supporting one another off-list can ameliorate some of the feelings of being alone, it does not improve the situation on the list itself. What should be a general forum for archivists of all kinds is an unsafe, noninclusive environment, and it's going to stay that way as long as a few individuals with the privilege of job security and longevity in that community dominate the list and respond to criticism with unchecked bullying. On some level I feel like I and others should remain on the list and offer each other strength in numbers, but thus far it does not feel like that approach has garnered results and it is difficult to invest the energy when it feels like I might very well risk career opportunities in exchange for making little to no lasting difference.<br /><br />Anyway, what I meant to write when I started this comment is that I really appreciate this breakdown of the social dynamics of online arguments. While I did my best to remain professional and reasonable in my own responses when I was on the list, I can recognize some of my own impulses in your descriptions of unhelpful contributions. Being Disaffected or a Shamer is, unfortunately, an easy way out, and it is helpful to be reminded of the effects that behavior has on the community. In the heat of the moment things get muddled and it becomes easy to doubt one's own position, and I think this post is a good resource for reminding oneself of the social dynamics involved and recognizing when another user (or even oneself!) is engaging in destructive, unreasonable behavior.Kathrynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-75966734640404101242014-06-10T10:30:20.766-03:002014-06-10T10:30:20.766-03:00Well, Anon, you've left another comment but it...Well, Anon, you've left another comment but it doesn't seem like you're actually much interested in communication -- since part of effective communication is listening to, and engaging meaningfully with, the perspective of the others involved in the discussion.<br /><br />You say "I don't think Peter comes across on the list as a bully at all," for example. This is not the point. The point is that some people on the A&A listserv experience it as an environment where they are bullied. Your response to this revelation should not be "I don't think you're being bullied." <em>Your perspective on their experience does not trump their actual experience.</em> Your response, as a member of the community these individuals are a part of should be, "I'm so sorry that you're feeling bullied. What is causing you to feel unsafe and how might we work together as a community to ensure this doesn't continue happening in the future?" <br /><br />And "Thank you for the reading recommendation, but I really don't have the time," means that I feel no obligation to continue this conversation. Social privilege is a complicated issue about which many far more articulate individuals than I have written. If you can't be bothered to read a single blog post written in nonacademic language by an engaging author about the dynamics of that privilege, then we have no grounds for fruitful exchange.<br /><br />Understanding and grappling with the way our world privileges some and marginalizes others is a <em>collective</em> responsibility. Privilege makes marginalization invisible; that's how it operates. In order for us to understand how we are privileged (and all of us are along some vector or another) we must do the work of learning to "see." That is OUR responsibility, not the responsibility of the marginalized whose eyes are already open -- because they have no option -- to how they are treated by society in shitty ways. It is my job, for example, to listen and learn from my friends with disabilities so that I learn to see how my privilege as an able-bodied individual operates. I don't demand that people I know who are undocumented educate me on the privileges that I take for granted as a native-born citizen. I don't demand these individuals "prove" the existence of privilege and oppression to me; I listen and learn from their anger and their pain. And take their reading suggestions seriously when they provide them.<br /><br />And as to the question of professional engagement and labor, you do not need to explain your management decisions to me. I stand by my original point that you and I have very different management philosophies and it is clear that we have chosen to foster very different workplace environments. annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-45870995288533644642014-06-09T19:20:10.097-03:002014-06-09T19:20:10.097-03:00I debated with myself whether or not to respond, b...I debated with myself whether or not to respond, but in the interest of your desire to maintain open communication I'll add a few more comments. <br /><br />1) I don't think Peter comes across on the list as a bully at all. He can be direct, but so are many others who dole out good advice. They're often busy. They write with a short, direct, tone. Now, that's just my personal perception. It was my perception when I was a younger (female) SNAP and it's my current perception now that I've officially reached the age of federal protection against ageism. (Calling someone "old" on Twitter isn't age discrimination is it?) :)<br /><br />2) Thank you for the reading recommendation, but I really don't have the time. <br /><br />3) My employer does not define blogging and commenting on blogs as professional engagement with colleagues. We are encouraged (and encourage others) that much of the casual social media interaction and philosophical reflection of that level is best done on personal time. Our professional engagement is directed more towards professional meetings (local, regional, national), professional development, continuing education, and the in-person networking that results from those meetings. We are also encouraged to engage in outreach or promotion of the profession by writing for peer review publication, historical publications, and presenting to our user-groups. So as an employer I expect my (albeit small) staff to do their part to keep our department running, complete their assigned tasks in a timely manner, grow as professionals, be passionate about their work, and understand how the business side of the house works so they may be stronger advocates for available resources. But no, I do not encourage them to blog about philosophy or how archivists engage one another in an online forum. That does not pertain to our current work assignment. It's not "bitter" it's just practical. I do the job for which I was hired to do and I actually enjoy it quite a bit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-24913346585882031532014-06-09T14:05:05.110-03:002014-06-09T14:05:05.110-03:00@krichardsbrown I only follow small group on Twitt...@krichardsbrown I only follow small group on Twitter but have found that seeing whom people I follow reply to on multiple @ threads on archives, records management, history, often leads to delightful new discoveries of people to follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-74750354074433388352014-06-07T08:15:54.902-03:002014-06-07T08:15:54.902-03:00Ah, Symphony Hall! Right near my lovely workplace ...Ah, Symphony Hall! Right near my lovely workplace on the Fens (Massachusetts Historical Society). Some of my colleagues live out in Arlington at the end of the red line and seem to like it. Good luck with the house! My wife's mother grew up in Lunenburg and we get out toward Fitchburg every so often to visit her grandparents' graves. There's some lovely countryside out there.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-80773461366756677112014-06-06T17:29:03.447-03:002014-06-06T17:29:03.447-03:00Congratulations on your move out to JP, by the way...Congratulations on your move out to JP, by the way. I moved to Boston from New Jersey in 1993 and I've loved it ever since. I lived downtown (by Symphony Hall), then in Allston, then in Quincy, now in Arlington. (I might finally be getting a house soon, near Fitchburg, if things go well.) Moving really is emotionally and physically exhausting, but when it's over it's great to be in a new place.Ryan Hendricksonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-58616000604499034802014-06-06T11:32:35.302-03:002014-06-06T11:32:35.302-03:00THANK YOU!!THANK YOU!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-18974470262522544792014-06-06T10:21:24.911-03:002014-06-06T10:21:24.911-03:00In follow up, here is the stable URL to my Tweet q...In follow up, <a href="https://twitter.com/feministlib/status/474694536820969472" rel="nofollow">here is the stable URL to my Tweet querying suggestions</a> and the replies people are offering, which appear in smaller format below the original Tweet.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-8572813675454640772014-06-06T02:24:26.699-03:002014-06-06T02:24:26.699-03:00For Twitter, I'd suggest that you simply sign ...For Twitter, I'd suggest that you simply sign up for an account and then test the waters. Once you've signed up, find one account on Twitter for someone whose work you admire or who has similar interests. You can do this by asking the individual for their handle or by Googling "Jane Doe on Twitter". If they have a twitter account, you'll probably find them. 2) You can see which accounts a twitter account follows. 3) Follow some of the same accounts that the first account follows. 4) Over time, you'll see whether or not the folks tweet about topics that interest you. Unfollow if they don't. Also, you'll see that those accounts might re-tweet something of interest from yet another account. Consider following those other accounts. Builds slowly, but it gets honed to be only the ones of primary interest. <br /><br />Best of luck! @k8_bowers (tweets about archival metadata, historical notes, sometimes random life events or recipes)Kate Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-54857519817566432262014-06-05T20:27:14.523-03:002014-06-05T20:27:14.523-03:00Hi krichardsbrown, that's a good question and ...Hi krichardsbrown, that's a good question and one I may not be the best resource for. My professional networking is eclectic and opportunistic, using what social science researchers call "snowball sampling" and what might be colloquially termed "link hopping." I read bloggers and Twitter accounts I enjoy and pay attention to who they're retweeting or linking to, and then add those folks to my list.<br /><br />You might be interested in some of the resources listed on <a href="http://annajcook.blogspot.com/p/librarianship-links.html" rel="nofollow">this page</a> of the feminist librarian, based on a talk I did for undergraduates in 2012 considering the library/archives profession. As the page explains, I polled my library and archivist friends for resources that were their "go to" and compiled a links list for the students' exploration. Many of the bloggers listed also have Twitter accounts, if that is your preferred tool.<br /><br />Others may have good suggestions -- I'll be sending this query out to Twitter shortly so check back for further suggestions.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-14861575258712142302014-06-05T12:01:55.604-03:002014-06-05T12:01:55.604-03:00Thank you for this post. I was curious to know wh...Thank you for this post. I was curious to know why my digest started appearing in my SPAM folder and was behind in the flow of the conversation. I've been getting out of the habit of reading the digest, due to lack of time and how many times posts tend to be off topic. I also felt it was more of an exclusive group that I couldn't get into, instead of a collaborative forum to discuss concerns, standards and new trends in archives. <br /><br />I am curious to know which Twitter Groups people follow and post questions in? I am behind with using twitter, but it sounds like those groups are a bit more active and open to all.<br /><br />THANKS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-13326706208436409882014-06-03T17:13:46.977-03:002014-06-03T17:13:46.977-03:00The upside of this has been seeing how many others...The upside of this has been seeing how many others feel the same & who are also speaking up in their own ways as they are able.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-59205946171542186152014-06-03T17:13:06.069-03:002014-06-03T17:13:06.069-03:00Thank you, Ryan, for stopping by and commenting. I...Thank you, Ryan, for stopping by and commenting. I read this just when I needed to at the low-energy ebb of the afternoon! I will do my best to keep advocating for a different, more inclusive conversation and conversational space.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-14761556308662058022014-06-03T15:38:06.719-03:002014-06-03T15:38:06.719-03:00Thank you very much for this blog post, I think yo...Thank you very much for this blog post, I think you got right to the heart of several issues that have been building within the U.S. archival community for a few years now. The biggest issue, in my opinion anyway, is what seems to be a generation gap but is really an "employment/technology gap" in the field. I've been an archivist for 14 years, hosted numerous interns, and taught an intro to archives class three times now. I see many new or relatively-new archivists who got into archives because they are excited about public history, outreach, social media, the bleeding edge of working with data, digitization, metadata, research methods, etc. But going by what I've seen on the listserv, there are a lot of archivists who find these "new" archivists and all they represent very disorienting and/or threatening, and don't want to engage with them at all. You can tell by their reactions: humorless sarcasm, patronizing condescension, glib dismissal; all of it smells like fear to me.<br /><br />I saw this when Jackie Dooley (who is wonderful) gave her Presidential SAA address last year. I believe she wanted to directly address the "gap" and the hostility on both sides, but from where I sat in the room, the seasoned SAA members didn't hear any of the criticisms directed at them; instead they embraced it as a smackdown of newer archivists. So it became a public "punching down," as you put it, even if J. Dooley didn't intend it that way. What's especially ironic is that Dooley was asking new archivists to get involved in SAA to change things from the inside. But that message got lost. Maybe there will be some positive discussion at SAA this year, but I'm not holding by breath.<br /><br />Incidentally, I've been a member of the archives listserv since 2000, long before SAA took it over. It's true that the discussion could be just as unproductive then as it often is now; the angry e-mails about G.W. Bush drove many off the list for good. The big debate back then was what to do about Don Saklad, who would post long paranoid rants about the Boston Public Library; he was eventually banned from the list, but not before a long internal debate. Every batch of people who leave the list every year -- over, say, endless discussions of "virtual picnics" and out-of-office replies -- are replaced by a new batch of archivists new to the field, and the cycle starts again. I have noticed the list dying a slow death, with fewer and fewer messages of substance, since 2008, which is about when twitter caught on.<br /><br />Thanks again for your post, and keep up the good work..<br /><br />Ryan Hendricksonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-80909817426728146602014-06-02T20:49:28.442-03:002014-06-02T20:49:28.442-03:00Anon,
Since you pre-emptively assumed I would no...Anon, <br /><br />Since you pre-emptively assumed I would not read and respond to your post in good faith, I'm ambivalent about whether I should take the time to respond at all. But here are a few quick points:<br /><br />1) Regardless of how X comes across "in real life," what matters here is how X comes across on the list. And to some of us, he comes across as a bully. I would also add that, despite some peoples' determination to separate their online lives from "real" life, in my experience people are rarely radically different individuals in virtual space than they are face to face.<br /><br />2) I would encourage you to explore more deeply how social privilege works. Possibly starting with John Scalzi's <a href="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/" rel="nofollow">Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is</a>. Social privilege has nothing to do with how we have or have not "worked [our] tail[s] off" to be where we are. It's about how society makes it possible for us to "earn" our place in society in the first place, while it actively works against others doing the same. I have my share of privilege in this world as a white, born-middle-class, college-educated, native citizen, full-time-employed individual. <br /><br />I have worked to get where I am, but society has opened doors for me too. It would be incredibly naive of me to assume that privilege and inequality had not enabled me in many ways (even as I am marginalized in others). We're all mixed bags of margin and center.<br /><br />In this specific case, we had someone in many ways centered who targets individuals in certain ways marginalized. <br /><br />3) Finally, I'm fascinated/appalled that as an employer you would not see professional engagement with their colleagues about issues that deeply affect the profession as part of your employees jobs as librarians or archivists. It's clear you and I have a very different understanding of what it means to be a good employee. My definition involves expecting the staff whom I supervise to do their part to keep our library running, complete their assigned tasks in a timely manner, grow as (mostly young) professionals, be passionate about their work and the practical and philosophical issues that work raises, and to understand the difference between representing their employer and speaking for their professional selves. I very much hope that my approach to supervising staff and setting the tone for a workplace environment never results in such bitter feelings as you display in this response to my OP.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-35476204473320649002014-06-02T20:32:21.322-03:002014-06-02T20:32:21.322-03:00Anon, I get the sense that you're being sarcas...Anon, I get the sense that you're being sarcastic/ironic in your comment, suggesting that my post is a "post-modern critique" (I took postmodern philosophy in college, but I'm not sure where my OP fits into that philosophical framework). But I'm going to answer your question about whether X was a woman and linkspam+feminism as directly as I am able.<br /><br />1) On the question of whether X's gender is the key point of my critique the answer is both "yes" and "no." <br /><br />If what you are asking is whether women are capable of acting in sexist ways toward other women, my answer is yes. Women are just as capable of, and often fierce enforcers of, gender stereotypes and gender inequality. In addition, I've seen women in our profession act in dismissive and ageist ways toward younger colleagues, and definitely seen women act as supporters of powerful male colleagues who refuse to engage seriously with their female colleagues.<br /><br />On the other hand, I stand by my analysis that the dynamic on the listserv under discussion here is shaped in part by X's gender and his socialized way of being in the world as a man. His behavior fits a gendered pattern. That doesn't mean men inevitably dominate a conversation, dismiss the opinions of female or youthful colleagues, etc. But it does mean that we have seen men do this and be rewarded for it socially because it's acceptable "male" behavior. <br /><br />As to your question about linkspam and feminism, my experience is more in blogging than in email lists. On the blogs I have participated in, we definitely had issues with commenters who took up an inordinate amount of comment space. One in particular I recall who had a habit of posting serial one-thought comments on a blog where each post had a comment limit. So her multiple comments had the material result of stifling discussion because she would "max out" the post's comment limit. Her comments were also highly repetitive, so her one-note messages tended to block out others who might have brought different perspectives to the table.<br /><br />In that instance, as here, the disruptive commenter was allowed to be disruptive because those in the moderator role (we had them, but they were scattershot in their approach) refused to enforce the policies with this individual. I don't believe technology is the fix for these community negotiations; I believe they require the labor of community members to resolve.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-60338928631996234522014-06-02T15:36:37.770-03:002014-06-02T15:36:37.770-03:00I'm an early career (rather: an unemployed new...I'm an early career (rather: an unemployed new graduate) and I really appreciate you saying this. I saw the blowup a few months ago when someone wanted to discuss the difficulties of being hired as a new graduate, and I was terrified into silence by the vehemence of X's opinions that we, as new graduates, were fools for not understanding that there weren't enough jobs for all of us, and that we should not complain about the lack of jobs or difficulties in getting hired. This new blowup made me equally terrified to engage on a professional level for fear of being targeted (and also for fear that it would put my name out there as a "dissenter" and hurt my chances for employment later down the line). This active putting down of young archivists is disheartening and also intensely socially charged. I recognize the privilege at work that I naively felt, as a young woman coming into a woman-dominated field, I would not have to experience so keenly. Instead I find myself butting against mostly male archivists and librarians who are intent to call me an idiot for not understanding the profession before entering (I find that women are much more encouraging, and continually tell me to please keep applying, please keep trying). <br /><br />So I guess this is a thank you for this post. This is not only enlightening to the social structure of this listserv, but illuminating on the social and gender politics at work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-5139721236949821502014-06-02T15:36:35.598-03:002014-06-02T15:36:35.598-03:00You should have a sit-down beer summit with X. I ...You should have a sit-down beer summit with X. I think you would be reading his posts with a different attitude if you knew him IRL. I have no idea where this everyone-is-a-victim mentality comes from. It appears to me that nearly everyone is now a member of the "some-form-of-marginalized-we-will-make-the-other-guy-suffer-for-our-misfortune" club. (Unless you're a white guy over 40 with some form of "social privilege.") I wasn't raised that way. That whole concept of thinking is foreign to me.<br /><br />I don't comprehend why people would be afraid to ask a question on the list. X (and many other very vocal male experienced archivists) usually have good advice, suggestions, resources. Phrasing their answer in "Why don't you have this book as a professional?" can be read in two ways. If you're on the defensive, you see it as an attack. If you're open to receiving all advice, you read it and think... Oh, yeah.. I should get that one! Cool, thanks! <br /><br />You've obviously put quite a bit of thought into your post. Even though I don't agree with or understand where you're coming from for 98% of it. As an employer, I really hope it wasn't done on work-time or if it was, that your employer is embracing your use of their paid time. And yes, I just realized that by admitting that, you can now dismissively discredit my entire honest, personal opinion as complete crap because even though I've worked my tail off and earned my position, it now come with some sense of "privilege" no matter how much I've given back to the profession, or mentored SNAP or encouraged or purposefully found ways to open doors for their own professional opportunity and advancement. I actually debated removing that last paragraph, but then I wouldn't be honest. And overall my take away is that you are encouraging people to be honest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-40466358478129816792014-06-02T14:43:34.418-03:002014-06-02T14:43:34.418-03:00Thank you for a thorough, thoughtful, and well wri...Thank you for a thorough, thoughtful, and well written account of this situation .. I had been on vacation and had not see this latest round of posts on "that list" . I personally don't mind all the posts which are more popular news about archives, which can easily be deleted ... BUT there is no place on a "professional" list for individuals to be rude, unhelpful, domineering, or condescending to others ... I did not realize that posters had received private responses that they felt were inappropriate and unprofessional (since they were all off list) .... I'm sure that others are also unaware of this .. it certainly puts a different light on the situation ... thanks again for your blog post, it has given me a lot to think about.Patricia Hewittnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-79173837487558948512014-06-02T14:42:33.573-03:002014-06-02T14:42:33.573-03:00Just for fun, what if X was female? How much of yo...Just for fun, what if X was female? How much of your critique would still apply? <br /><br />You mention at the beginning of your post: <br /><br />"I’ve seen it happen before in other forums, and will no doubt see it again. It’s a worrying pattern, a pattern of unethically leveraged power and privilege, and I believe strongly that it needs to be named as such." <br /><br />In your experience, were the other cases where "linkspam" has caused controversy also due feminist critique-worthy behavior? Or were they more mundane technology and communications issues that can arise in any unmoderated listserv space? <br /><br />As you say, librarianship & archival science are fields where females constitute a sizable majority--so I'm just wondering if a female were to be the "linkspam" offender, do they get their own special brand of post-modern critique or do they get a free pass?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-85266586379736296202014-06-02T13:48:01.890-03:002014-06-02T13:48:01.890-03:00In follow-up, for anyone who thinks that librarian...In follow-up, for anyone who thinks that librarians and archivists do not have work to do in the realm of sex and gender discrimination, see <a href="http://www.attemptingelegance.com/?p=2420" rel="nofollow">this post</a> on a recent library conference incident (h/t to <a href="https://twitter.com/stevelibrarian/status/473482691548315648" rel="nofollow"> stevelibrarian</a> on Twitter)annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-27423275456521477912014-06-02T13:38:55.201-03:002014-06-02T13:38:55.201-03:00Very interesting post with a very valuable perspec...Very interesting post with a very valuable perspective. I was very disappointed by the leadership of SAA, as they should do a better job of addressing the issue. Using member intput, they should clearly spell out the policy for "Linkspam" in an open manner. I am sure that there is way to balance the concerns of those who want it and those who don't. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-38556838846924391232014-06-02T12:39:33.985-03:002014-06-02T12:39:33.985-03:00Welcome to folks who are coming here for the first...Welcome to folks who are coming here for the first time via Twitter or the A&A list! This is more traffic than my little blog has seen in awhile; maybe ever. Glad to be hosting this conversation.annajcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17573723390785613915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8743841912028246535.post-35002114322006600312014-06-02T11:36:56.317-03:002014-06-02T11:36:56.317-03:00I got here from one of his posts as well. I got here from one of his posts as well. elkarl13https://www.blogger.com/profile/05850166865588391904noreply@blogger.com